The Wonders of Chatting with iPhone Siri=the Colleague kind
I was at UPLB GK for our usual onsite visit to have students get the feel of the place, what they're getting into and why CWTS, though a non acad course, is just as serious as any academic course. I'm not going to rattle about CWTS and instead try to remember what triggered thoughts and this good e-Xchange with Roel, a colleague I shall put in the ranks of my PhD support group, where I already have Sol, Peter and Kalyan. slotted in there somewhere. Sol=drawing board, who is there to draw and write neatly on a clean white sheet my thoughts therefore showing the direction of my ever ADHD thoughts. Peter=cheering squad. I turn to him over chat so I can be reminded that this PhD is a step at the right direction, a means to maintain a university career which allows me (and will allow me to achieve other dreams). Kalyan=painting. He reminds me of my Agra trip to the Taj Mahal and that it can happen again as long as I will it to be because such is the power of the mind. I shall take a closer view of the Taj Mahal, this time with my daughter, like a midway reward once I get my theses outline approved. Roel=my academic sounding board, over chat and tidbits whenever I get a chance to pick his brains F2F.
So what triggered for me to finally put into asking Roel, the iPhone Siri colleague, missing pieces in this conceptualization called theses to finally wrestle with the thought that my ANTI-theses shall lose this battle. GK Site at UPLB is a community of urban poor resettlers. The place is surrounded by trees and at the hilly side of UPLB. Its air is fresh hence it no longer reminds its resettlers that they are urbanly poor. Instead, the multicolored row of houses remind them than they can choose to be better, when given the chance to make ends meet. External assistance is well received because having a new home (initially given), taking responsibility for its maintenance and eventual land ownership will be their counterpart. In the end, they return to themselves. The whole idea is novel and good. The community however, may still be struggling in some areas of their lives, hence there is still a sense that they are not living the lives of middle class=the new poor (lol).
The narrow paths (not exactly concrete roads) from the back entrance leading to the Sibol daycare, are proportional to the narrow spaces they have within their households. The stay at home working females were sorting/packing collected bottles for reselling. A few houses have small stores and carinderia to make ends meet. In one store, you find 3-female umpukan around a tablet playing a music video of Taylor Swift.
This could be classic image plus a hundred others, of areas where I would like my instrument for readiness to be used. But I am confused...readiness for eLearning, online learning or ODeL? My initial thoughts were school community readiness because one cannot take curriculum planning and implementation of distance learning in isolation. School community=local barangay/community settlement, households, the school which may run center-based/school-based ed programs and NGO's or the parish running a community/home-based programs. Should my instrument be just about assessing readiness for elearning? It needs additional components to accommodate realities of the Filipino child learner and the kind/phase of society he/she is in. The instrument should not marginalize but as I've phrased earlier, empowering....
I caught Roel as green light at my chatbox=CAN be interrupted, in the same way that I know, Sol, Peter and Kalyan are at different times of the week.
5:14 PM me: hi roel
I was at UPLB GK for our usual onsite visit to have students get the feel of the place, what they're getting into and why CWTS, though a non acad course, is just as serious as any academic course. I'm not going to rattle about CWTS and instead try to remember what triggered thoughts and this good e-Xchange with Roel, a colleague I shall put in the ranks of my PhD support group, where I already have Sol, Peter and Kalyan. slotted in there somewhere. Sol=drawing board, who is there to draw and write neatly on a clean white sheet my thoughts therefore showing the direction of my ever ADHD thoughts. Peter=cheering squad. I turn to him over chat so I can be reminded that this PhD is a step at the right direction, a means to maintain a university career which allows me (and will allow me to achieve other dreams). Kalyan=painting. He reminds me of my Agra trip to the Taj Mahal and that it can happen again as long as I will it to be because such is the power of the mind. I shall take a closer view of the Taj Mahal, this time with my daughter, like a midway reward once I get my theses outline approved. Roel=my academic sounding board, over chat and tidbits whenever I get a chance to pick his brains F2F.
So what triggered for me to finally put into asking Roel, the iPhone Siri colleague, missing pieces in this conceptualization called theses to finally wrestle with the thought that my ANTI-theses shall lose this battle. GK Site at UPLB is a community of urban poor resettlers. The place is surrounded by trees and at the hilly side of UPLB. Its air is fresh hence it no longer reminds its resettlers that they are urbanly poor. Instead, the multicolored row of houses remind them than they can choose to be better, when given the chance to make ends meet. External assistance is well received because having a new home (initially given), taking responsibility for its maintenance and eventual land ownership will be their counterpart. In the end, they return to themselves. The whole idea is novel and good. The community however, may still be struggling in some areas of their lives, hence there is still a sense that they are not living the lives of middle class=the new poor (lol).
The narrow paths (not exactly concrete roads) from the back entrance leading to the Sibol daycare, are proportional to the narrow spaces they have within their households. The stay at home working females were sorting/packing collected bottles for reselling. A few houses have small stores and carinderia to make ends meet. In one store, you find 3-female umpukan around a tablet playing a music video of Taylor Swift.
This could be classic image plus a hundred others, of areas where I would like my instrument for readiness to be used. But I am confused...readiness for eLearning, online learning or ODeL? My initial thoughts were school community readiness because one cannot take curriculum planning and implementation of distance learning in isolation. School community=local barangay/community settlement, households, the school which may run center-based/school-based ed programs and NGO's or the parish running a community/home-based programs. Should my instrument be just about assessing readiness for elearning? It needs additional components to accommodate realities of the Filipino child learner and the kind/phase of society he/she is in. The instrument should not marginalize but as I've phrased earlier, empowering....
I caught Roel as green light at my chatbox=CAN be interrupted, in the same way that I know, Sol, Peter and Kalyan are at different times of the week.
5:14 PM me: hi roel
pwede ako mag consult
re terms of usage
sa distance learning
Roel: hi ma'am.
5:15 PM ok
sa abot ng makakaya ko po.
me: online learning vs. elearning vs open and distance elearning
5:16 PM online learning prang nasa instructional level
ang elearning parang ewan at ang isa parang mas ewan
ano ba ang mga kaibahan
5:17 PM Roel: sa nababasa ko ma'am sa literature ang "online learning" at "elearning" ay synonymous.
mas popular lang ang elearning sa mga educational consultancies kaysa sa online learning na mas neutral.
me: okie gets ko rin yun kase nag google ako
5:18 PM masmarami ako nakukuhang articles re elearning related to readiness vs online
Roel: ang open and distance learning ay mas malawak dahil puwedeng print ang delivery o broadcast.
me: parang mas gusto ko yun sa study ko itong ODeL
5:19 PM School Readiness for ODeL
kase hmmm
ayokong isiping laos ang correspondence mode
nakapaloob ba yun sa ODeL
Roel: icorrect ko sarili ko sa elearning dahil iyong nga palang isang respected na journal na nagsara na ang pangalan ay elearning papers.
5:20 PM correspondence ay nakapaloob sa ODeL
me: is a correspondence mode a necessary phase to get to the elearning mode
5:21 PM for some communities
school communities
yung shifting nila bale
5:22 PM Roel: historical ang categories of delivery.
me: can that be applicable to what some societies may possibly go thru
5:23 PM Roel: may paper na nag-aasociate ng mga delivery modes na ito sa DE stage (hindi ito ang term)
Depende sa infrastructure ng bansa.
me: oonga eh
Roel: Puwede namang mag-leapfrog kung lumakas ang infra.
Karamihan sa studies diyan sa Africa.
me: talga
Roel: Kaya may mga nagleapfrog sa mobile learning.
5:24 PM me: nag leapfrog
wow
Roel: dahil sa penetration ng mobile.
me: yun ang sabi ng favorite teacher ko noon
Roel: mahal kasi ang wired net infrastructure.
me: hehe the future of educ is in the mobile phone
mga 2005 nya ata sinabi yun
Roel: tablet na ngayon hehe
5:25 PM lumaki na ang smarphone.
me: well iniisip ko lang kase if I go for School Readiness for eLearning surely
meron mamamarginalize sa study ko
5:26 PM kaso baka kelangan ko yun to limit the scope of my study
Roel: malamang oo dahil sa client equipment magkakatalo.
me: its like saying a big portion of our schools can never be ready if it is elearning lang
Roel: kung sa labanan ng terminology baka mas mabuting sundan ang related lit mo.
5:27 PM me: ang exisitng models kase for readiness nasa
area ng elearning eh
not for ex; open and distance elearning or open schooling
Roel: pero kung may grant ang study mo de ikaw ang magpoprovide ng laptop at net connection :)
5:28 PM me: but how sustainable is that diba
Roel: siguro dahil malaki ang component ng ict readiness (nanghuhula lang)
me: oo
yan kase mga nababasa ko
school and technology readiness
Roel: oo, mga 2 years lang junk na makina.
me: so baka mag end up ang study ko with ICT enabled schools
5:29 PM lang
well unless
5:30 PM gagamit ako ng instrument based on existing models
Roel: malamang, wala akong makitang point sa pagpapadala ng research instrument sa isang barrio school na walang kuryente.
me: patatakbuhin ko sa ibat ibang set ups
lalabas may ku;lang sa existing instrument
5:31 PM and therefore when i draw out a framework for readness
it should be inclusive of all those
ginagawa kitang sounding board
haha
Roel: ok lang.
5:32 PM me: so kaya nga
kung ang readiness ko is for ODEL ibig sabihin
pwede ko dalhin sa baryo
Roel: puwede laluna kung may katulad noong radio school na combination ng two way radio at print.
me: kaso ang lawak pala
5:33 PM tipong kase anong tawag dun
dapat may consideration of
school communities in the context of a country
with a dgi dvide
5:34 PM and yung parang anong tawag dun sa societies
ibat ibang uri ng society tayo
Roel: yup, isa sa objectives ng ODEL ang pag-reach sa marginalised sector.
Nasa isang UNESCO statement yata iyon na ginawa sa France.
5:35 PM me: i am missing a term to describe _________societies
Roel: multi ethnic? multi cultural?
5:36 PM class society?
me: hmmm...teka baka laos ito
Roel: underdeveloped?
me: ex traditional, feudal capitalist
kaso ngayon parang we have allthose
5:37 PM at one given time
economic-anthro term siguro
naguguluhan ka na sa kin?
gets mo ba sinasabi ko?
5:38 PM Roel: ang unawa ko ay parang quilt ang lipunan natin, may namumuhay sa 1500, 1800, 1950 at 2012.
me: yun yun yon
5:39 PM may perspective ba na ganoon?
valid ba yun?
Roel: Dito sa amin, urbanised na pero may sitio na walng ilaw dahil sa iyong lupa ay hacienda na tinatangkang i CARP.
5:40 PM me: baka pwede i tweak means of production ergo the means through which we produce knowledge
Roel: sa development economics may mga terms sila. Di ko lang matandaan.
me: yun nga diba
a framework of whatever is always grounded on one's view of society
5:41 PM diba?
Roel: fragmented digital divide
me: school community is part of that society
5:42 PM and therefore
pagkatapos ng ganuung pagsusuri
ano ang ibig sabihin ng ODEL sa atin
at bakit di sapat ang elearning lamang
5:43 PM ang modelo ng readiness
Roel: tama, paano masusukat ang readiness kung walang kuryente?
me: oo
ang readiness ba batay sa
Roel: kung may ibang paraan ng delivery, may iba ring measure ng readiness.
me: kuryente at ICT
di pwede
oo
dapat may ganung sensitivity at inclusivity
5:44 PM otherwise
its like any other instrument bound to measure what is obvious
Roel: do kung print ang delivery, ano ang readiness variables.
me: 0 na tayo simula palang
readiness variables
5:45 PM how is that diff from from factors?
Roel: pero iyong nga ang exciting, kung may instrument na kayang mag differentiate ng target learners.
kapag category A, print ka muna.
me: yun nga
Roel: kapag category B, radio ka muna.
me: yun yon gusto ko
Roel: kapag category C, broadcast etc.
5:46 PM me: or okie lang talga kung dun ka magsisimula
Roel: magdevelop ng indices tungkol sa locality ng targtet.
me: o kung yun ang kaya mo
and that is not necessarily being less ready
Roel: o geomap ng bansa. color coded.
me: you are just ready for something else
Roel: mga area na pang print lang.
mga area na pang broadcast.
5:47 PM GIS ang kailangan.
me: pwede ba yun
?
i mean
Roel: oo, magandang tool for planning iyon.
me: can it all exist simultaneously
kaya mahalaga ang readiness din ng family as part of school community
kase andun minsan ang resources
5:48 PM esp kapag OFW
nagpapadala
ng gadget
Roel: another map.
me: sa kamag anak
Roel: o layer ng map.
me: kakatawa kanina naisip ko yun
kase nasa GK UPLB ako
site visit namin
sa cwts
Roel: kung descriptive lang. pero may prescriptive ba na itaas ang isang area to another.
5:49 PM me: medyo urban rural ang dating
i mean
rural urban poor
kakalito yun tapos
may tablet nanood kay taylor swift
Roel: haha
5:50 PM me: tekah binabalikan ko itong tanong mo
descriptive prescriptive
5:51 PM Roel: kung descriptive sasabihin ng instrument na ito ang readiness ngayon. kung prescriptive ano ang gagawin para umabot sa ibang kategoriya ng readiness (nasa labas na ito ng study pero iniisip ko lang)
5:52 PM me: yun ang gusto ko ensakly
kaso i want to veer away
from a framwork which shows parang a ladder
and at the top is elearning
parang thats the one to aim for
5:53 PM ba lagi?
how is a model different from a framework?
5:54 PM Roel: pagkakaunawa ko a model is an abstraction of a system. Is a framework a construct?
5:55 PM iyong tungkol sa elearning reminds me of the progressive era noong prewar kung saan ang development ay nakafocus sa industrialisation.
me: oo
Roel: parang nasa ganoong sitwasyon tayo sa ODL kung saan ang elearning ang direksiyon.
5:56 PM kahit yata magisip ng ibang klaseng network disruptive ang ict eh.
5:57 PM me: is disruptive tech
used na parang its progressive
5:58 PM Roel: pero sa aking, use what works. May sampalataya pa rin ako sa broadcast radio at print lalo na sa malayong lugar.
me: yun
kaninong work ang kelangan kong basahin
sa ganung pagtinging
Roel: disruptive in the sense na kung may alternative network sa isang locality kung saan natututo tao pag pumasok ang tech nagiging individualist ang tao at nawawala ang community.
me: dapat may ganun tayong appreciation kse
5:59 PM kaso sa pinoy kase
ang tech gamit collaborative kase
Roel: hindi ko masabi ngayon kung aling libro, pero malamang mga studies mula india, china, at africa.
me: lagi kulang at may need to share in order to survive
6:00 PM Roel: baka mayroon sa irrodl at eurodl journals.
me: ang dami kong kelangan basahin pero ito kase yung
area na
dapat kong palawigin kse
that instrument for readiness
has to have a base
diba
6:01 PM otherwise its just like anything out there
6:02 PM o sige
salamat
baka ma overwhelm ako
ilalagay ko ito sa blog ko
hehehe
roel=iphone siri
haha
if only siri can process the way you do
hahaha
6:03 PM funny yun
tumawa ka
6:04 PM lol
LOL
6:05 PM me: uy salamat
baka di lang ito ang huling time
na kukulitin kita
Roel: ust yata may ganitong perspective sa DL para sa marginalised see http://www.fit-ed.org/
6:07 PM me: zalamat. binbabasa ko kase din yung webpage ng national institute of open schooling sa india
ang india kase malinaw
kung nasaan sila
and they are not always looking towards the west
6:08 PM Roel: right. pero at the same time napakalaki ng marginalised sector nila kaya hindi matatago.
o hindi makakalimutan.
me: in other words gusto ko rin pala ng instrument na pwedeng gamiting ng mga ngo's esp community based educ programs nila
6:09 PM Roel: puwede nilang dalhin sa service area nila tapos makatulong sa needs assessment kung anong ODL bagay doon.
me: tekah di na ata yun school
kaya gusto ko school community
Roel: paaralan ng kalye.
me: baka sakalin ako ng adviser ko
hahanapan na naman nya ko
ng malinaw na
Roel: har har.
me: curriculum studies area ito
6:10 PM Roel: formal ed talaga ha.
6:11 PM me: hmmm. anyways...2 itong readings na binigay mo ano?
Roel: nagoogle ko lang.
6:12 PM me: ano ginamit mong search terms
Roel: broadcast print marginalised distance learning
6:13 PM me: okies. ito na muna. maloloka na ko
di pa nga mismong kalagitnaan ng theses eh
6:14 PM Roel: ok. tumining sana ang conceptualisation.
me: tumining...nice word. im so not that. haha
6:15 PM bye po!
Roel: bye.
